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		<title>k-Wave User Forum &#187; Topic: Acoustic wave propogation estimates on MRI structural skull scan (Black Bone)</title>
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			<title>Bradley Treeby on "Acoustic wave propogation estimates on MRI structural skull scan (Black Bone)"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Bradley Treeby</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;To do a direct conversion, you would need to know how to map the properties of the black-bone image to density. We've done this recently for PETRA images taken on a Siemens 3T, see &#60;a href=&#34;https://github.com/ucl-bug/petra-to-ct&#34;&#62;here&#60;/a&#62;. Alternatively, you could segment the skull from the MR (e.g., using &#60;a href=&#34;https://simnibs.github.io/simnibs/build/html/tutorial/head_meshing.html&#34;&#62;SimNibs&#60;/a&#62;) and then assign book values for the skull properties.
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			<title>wirsum on "Acoustic wave propogation estimates on MRI structural skull scan (Black Bone)"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2024 13:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi, &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am trying to replicate a paper that does acoustic and thermal modeling with k-Wave (&#60;a href=&#34;https://elifesciences.org/articles/40541)&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://elifesciences.org/articles/40541)&#60;/a&#62;. They simulated the acoustic wave propagation of a focused ultrasound protocol. I thought it might be a good idea to start with the &#34;Heterogeneous Propagation Medium&#34; example, as the modeling has to be done at the skull.&#60;br /&#62;
Now to my understanding, if a CT-scan of a skull is used, the sound speed and density necessary in this example would be derived from the function hounsfield2density.&#60;br /&#62;
However, my lab can't do a CT-Scan. We have MRI structural scans (black bone) available which provide high image contrast between bone and other tissues (also see here: &#60;a href=&#34;https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3473988/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3473988/&#60;/a&#62; for the type of sequence). &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So I have the perhaps naive question whether there is an equivalent function to &#34;hounsfield2density&#34; that could also return the sound speed and density but just from the black bone scan (not from the CT Scan) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks :)
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