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		<title>k-Wave User Forum &#187; Topic: Large number of sensor points distort PA waveform in 3D time reversal</title>
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			<title>ivalus@uwo.ca on "Large number of sensor points distort PA waveform in 3D time reversal"</title>
			<link>http://www.k-wave.org/forum/topic/large-number-of-sensor-points-distort-pa-waveform-in-3d-time-reversal#post-5782</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 15:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ivalus@uwo.ca</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks so much Brad!  That paper explains the source of these artefacts quite nicely.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ivan
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			<title>Bradley Treeby on "Large number of sensor points distort PA waveform in 3D time reversal"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Bradley Treeby</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi Ivan,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;When running a forward simulation, the sensors are passive. However, when running time reversal image reconstruction, the signals are enforced as a Dirichlet boundary condition. When you use zeros at the input data, this is equivalent to creating a pressure-release boundary, which will reflect the waves 180 degrees out of phase. The two approaches you mention are equivalent to setting the flag &#60;code&#62;source.p_mode&#60;/code&#62; to &#60;code&#62;&#38;#39;additive&#38;#39;&#60;/code&#62; or &#60;code&#62;&#38;#39;dirichlet&#38;#39;&#60;/code&#62;. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You might also find &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.k-wave.org/papers/2010-Cox-IEEETMI.pdf&#34;&#62;this paper&#60;/a&#62; helpful.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Brad.
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			<title>ivalus@uwo.ca on "Large number of sensor points distort PA waveform in 3D time reversal"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi All,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks for the great package!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am running time reversal using kspaceFirstOrder3d using a sensor mask with 24000 sensors and experimental time series. The grid size is 384x384x180 with 1mm spacing, so max supported f=750kHz.  I am using the default PML but changing it makes little difference.  I run it on the GeForce GTX 1080 card and an 8 core PC.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The strange thing is that when I run the full recon with all 24000 sensors, it produces distorted images but when I split it up into 100 sets of 240 and then sum/stitch the sub-images, the results are clear, similar to results from standard back-projection.  In fact, I determined that using a single sensor which gets a non-zero time series, along with many (&#38;gt;1000) sensors whose time series are all zeros, produces distorted results compared to using the same sensor/time-series but without other sensors present. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So it seems that even though the other sensors have all zeros as input data, they significantly affect the pressure calculations.  I thought that the sensors are supposed to be passive....is that an approximation? i.e.  Does a large amount &#38;gt;1000 of sensors affect the calculation even tough they have zero time-series amplitude as input?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks,&#60;br /&#62;
Ivan Kosik
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