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		<title>k-Wave User Forum &#187; Topic: Nonlinear Propagation in Air</title>
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			<title>s165 on "Nonlinear Propagation in Air"</title>
			<link>http://www.k-wave.org/forum/topic/nonlinear-propagation-in-air#post-5893</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>s165</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi Brad,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is it possible to continue this via email? The reason I ask is that I'd like to provide more detail but I'm currently working for a company where some of that information is confidential -- so posting about it on a forum wouldn't be the best course. Obviously if we the source of our issue I'll come back here to post it in case someone has a similar problem in future.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If that doesn't work for you then I'll do my best to answer here. For now I've sent an email to the address listed on your UCL page.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks,&#60;br /&#62;
Stephen
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			<title>Bradley Treeby on "Nonlinear Propagation in Air"</title>
			<link>http://www.k-wave.org/forum/topic/nonlinear-propagation-in-air#post-5886</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 13:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Bradley Treeby</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi s165,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I can't immediately think of why this wouldn't work in air. Some general questions / things to check:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1. Are you inputing the same nonlinearity parameter (BonA vs beta)&#60;br /&#62;
2. Is the waveform shocked?&#60;br /&#62;
3. Does the k-Wave simulation have sufficiently small grid size to support the nonlinear harmonics?&#60;br /&#62;
4. Do they both have the same level of absorption?&#60;br /&#62;
5. Is the field from a focused transducer (if so, what's the level of focusing)?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Brad.
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			<title>s165 on "Nonlinear Propagation in Air"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2017 23:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>s165</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;k-Wave is obviously developed with medical ultrasound/PA in mind and I'm wondering if there are any simplifying assumption that might make it not work when simulating propagation through air. Nothing I've read seems to indicate that, however, I have had issues when adding nonlinearities to a simulation. Without BonA, the k-Wave on-axis pressure curve (of the fundamental) matches will with a simulation run using KZK. Once I add in nonlinearities via BonA = 0.4, the fall off from when the pressure hits its peak becomes very rapid. The near-field still matches well.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I can provide more details, just let me know what you need.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;NB. I'm running the C++ version of the code.
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